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Posted about 1 year ago

 

Do you think that Pump And Apparatus Training should be covered in Drivers Training class?

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

I think it should, Because there is alot of good information in pump and apparatus class or even cover it in the ff1 class.

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

Definitely. The driver is almost always the pump operator. Granted there are many types and brands of trucks and pumps, but it should generically be covered. Then it can be further covered more in depth per apparatus and pump type later. Generically they all work the same, and the more pumps and trucks you learn to run, the more universal you will be on scenes.


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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

I strongly agree.

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Rate This | Posted about 1 year ago

 

Doesn't do much good to get the truck there and not be able to use it. In our department, we require 25 hours of pump training and 15 hours of driving training before the candidate even discusses driving with the administration. Then, the candidate meets with our operations chief to take a driving test, a pumping test, and a written test. If all of these are completed successfully, the candidate becomes an A.O. Then, as an A.O., one must attend 12 hours CE yearly. Driver training should not be a one part class.


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Rate This | Posted 6 months ago

 

chase1 said:

Definitely. The driver is almost always the pump operator. Granted there are many types and brands of trucks and pumps, but it should generically be covered. Then it can be further covered more in depth per apparatus and pump type later. Generically they all work the same, and the more pumps and trucks you learn to run, the more universal you will be on scenes.

Yea! I agree with tsmith1 as well. Your no good to the incident if you show up as the engineer and can't pump the truck. Talk about wasting two people for one job. With the low numbers of responders that we get it could be quite costly.

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Rate This | Posted 5 months ago

 

Absolutely. It needs to be done

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Rate This | Posted 4 months ago

 

No. Driver training should be just that and nothing more. Pumping a truck should be its own class. I agree with chase1 but, covered in basic 101. If you are driving the truck you should, by now, be well aware of pump operations. This includes ALL of your dept apparatus, not just 1 or 2. I know metro areas have 100's of pumpers but chances are,  they are very similar in design and manufacture.  In a rural setting,  well at least here, where you only have 10 or less,  you had damn well better be able to pump the truck.  Our problem is this,  there is no "glory" in pumping.  Get over it.  This, I feel, is more important than the attack.(no water=foundation relaxation)

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Rate This | Posted 3 months ago

 

This is a 'no brainer'.  Having taught pump operations in my department gave me piece of mind that my people would get water quickly with adequate pressure.  A good pump operator is a lifesaver.

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I just completed the Pumping Apparatus Driver Operator (PADO).  It was an awesome class!!  I was stunned by the amount of material covered.  Nearly 80 hours of instruction/homework/practical applications.  The course carried 4 college credit hours.  The International Fire Service Training Association (IFSTA) offers a Pumping Apparatus Driver Operator (PADO) class that also includes the International Fire Service Accreditation Congress (IFSAC) national certification upon successful completion of the written test and the skills applications.  IFSTA also offers an Emergency Vehicle Operations Course (EVOC) too with an IFSAC certification which is also geared to all different types of emergency vehicles (EMS/Police/Emergency Preparedness).   Both are exceptional courses and I recommend taking both.


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Rate This | Posted about 1 month ago

 

I AGREE THE WAY APPARTUS ARE BEENING MADE TODAY THEY ARE GETTING BIGGER AND FASTER

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Rate This | Posted about 1 month ago

 

Here in north carolina we have a driver operator certification, in that you have Emergency Vehicle Driving, which just covers driving, and then you have your pump classes, you have intro to pumps, basic operation, maintenance, hydraulics, service testing, sprinkler and standpipe, and water supply. which covers everything in the program, also quite a few hours. Then you also have a aerials cert. that has intro to aerials, basic aerials ops., aerial maintenance, and aerial testing procedure.

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Rate This | Posted about 1 month ago

 

at our station you have to pass a drivers test and a operators test for every truck before you are alowed to drive